Six "Nice Guy" failure modes

Lessons

1. 1Kindness is not the problemLesson M06-L1 · about 7 minutesExplain why the evidence does not support "nice guys finish last", and separate kindness from approval-seeking.
2. 2Approval-seeking and over-accommodatingLesson M06-L2 · about 7 minutesSpot approval-seeking and over-accommodation in a conversation and choose an authentic alternative.
3. 3Disagreeing honestlyLesson M06-L3 · about 6 minutesDisagree warmly and specifically instead of agreeing to keep the peace.
4. 4Hidden intent behind friendshipLesson M06-L4 · about 7 minutesSay why hiding romantic interest behind friendship works against finding out whether interest is mutual.
5. 5Over-explaining and apologizingLesson M06-L5 · about 6 minutesReplace excessive explanation, apology or reassurance-seeking with a short, warm statement.
6. 6Early over-investmentLesson M06-L6 · about 6 minutesSay why investing heavily before she has works against seeing what she would do on her own, and match her investment roughly instead.

Exercises that go with these lessons

• Evidence check · follows lesson M06-L1Kindness is not the problem: three evidence checks3 items, about 3 minutes
• Articulation · follows lesson M06-L2Approval-seeking and over-accommodating: three moments3 items, about 6 minutes
• Articulation · follows lesson M06-L3Disagreeing honestly: three moments3 items, about 6 minutes
• Investment ledger, Articulation · follows lesson M06-L4Hidden intent and early over-investment: three moments3 items, about 6 minutes
• Articulation, One notch · follows lesson M06-L5Over-explaining and apologizing: three moments3 items, about 6 minutes
• Investment ledger · follows lesson M06-L6Early over-investment: four moments4 moments, about 8 minutes

Go further

Talks, videos and pages by the people whose ideas these lessons discuss, matched to the topics the lessons cite. They are outside this site, and nothing from them loads until you follow a link. A link is not an endorsement; read the note under each one.

• Marni Kinrys: [Video] Raw Female Perspective On What Turns Women Off - Marni's Wing Girl Method

  Web page · leaves this site for winggirlmethod.com

  Free public page where Kinrys gives her perspective on behaviours that put people off; an attributable source for what the Wing Girl Method publicly says.

  Keep in mind. Single coach's perspective; do not generalise to what 'women' want. Site sells paid courses.

• Bobby Rio: 5 "Nice Guy" Conversation Mistakes to AVOID

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  Bobby Rio on conversation habits that undermine engagement, per the title; relevant to engaged versus merely polite behaviour and to conversational re-engagement.

  Keep in mind. Commercial dating coach; 'nice guy' framing is contested and the channel also carries manipulation-style content the app must not teach.

• Marni Kinrys: "You Think You're Pretty Smooth, Don't You?" She's Flirting. Not Being Mean.

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  Kinrys's short presents playful teasing and mock challenge as a sign of attraction and advises playing back rather than withdrawing. Relevant to engaged versus merely polite behaviour.

  Keep in mind. Anecdotal; teasing can be friendly, polite or unkind, and is not by itself a sign of romantic interest. Check for reciprocity over several turns.

• Marni Kinrys: Boldness and Creepiness Aren't Separated by What You Say. It's What You Do After.

  Video · leaves this site for youtube.com

  Kinrys's argument that boldness differs from creepiness by what a man does after seeing the other person's reaction, per the title; supports noticing and adjusting.

  Keep in mind. Coach's opinion in a commercial channel; the app must add that persistence after a no is never acceptable.